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Old 01-29-2012, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: Switching to acrylics - HEEEEELP!!!!

Like i said they are OK by brush. Not so good on airbrush. at least not fine tip ones. Maybe a broader tip but not fine.
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Default Re: Switching to acrylics - HEEEEELP!!!!

Guys, this month's issue of FSM has an article on using craft paints. Most of the tips would probably work well with hobby branded paints, too.

Edit: It was last month's issue. Nothing earth shattering, but, good suggestions as to how to get them to work.
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I saw that - they were talking about straining/filtering the paint. That might help.
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Default Re: Switching to acrylics - HEEEEELP!!!!

I think the suggestions on flow agent, dish soap, and hardener may be part of the key, too.
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I think the suggestions on flow agent, dish soap, and hardener may be part of the key, too.
My question is, if you're going to all that trouble, time, and expense, why not spring for the GOOD stuff?
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My question is, if you're going to all that trouble, time, and expense, why not spring for the GOOD stuff?
There ya go....

Now----here is something else important to remember--- the reason why I always use the mfg's thinner with their own product is simple, especially if you use Tamiya---their thinner is specifically made for their paint. I've sprayed Tamiya using alcohol, and using their thinner and the difference is night and day in the end finish.

Use Tamiya thinner and you have typical Tamiya results---super tight, skin-like, silky smooth finish that hugs every detail.

Use alcohol---mix it in any ratio and use any pressure you want and the finish is "pebbly" and sometimes even grainy. It still skins tight, but there is an absolute difference in finish. Tamiya's thinner has a specific retarding agent that allows their paint (flakes if you will) settle down and adhere to the surface interlocked. Alcohol evaporates quicker, not allowing the paint to settle down and "lay flat" on the surface.

I have a 250ml bottle of Tamiya thinner sitting here that I paid $6.00 for and I've been using it for 3 years---I still have a little less than half a bottle left. It's not worth sacrificing what is usually an expensive model, or creating a lot of extra work for myself over thirty cents worth of thinner.

I always match the thinner to the mfg---but again, that's just my way.

Superior products yield superior results---I know guys that'll spend hundreds of dollars on aftermarket parts for their "ultimate kit", and then dick around with the finishing materials on the cheap. If the build is that important, I don't understand why anyone would do that.
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Default Re: Switching to acrylics - HEEEEELP!!!!

You're right 100%. There *is* something extra in the Tamiya thinner - butanol. Before long, I should be able to figure out the ratio of it to the isopropyl which is Tamiya's main ingredient. (I work in a chem lab, and $4 per 30ml bottle is pissing me off)

This acrylic endeavor is working out even better than I had hoped!
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You're right 100%. There *is* something extra in the Tamiya thinner - butanol. Before long, I should be able to figure out the ratio of it to the isopropyl which is Tamiya's main ingredient. (I work in a chem lab, and $4 per 30ml bottle is pissing me off)

This acrylic endeavor is working out even better than I had hoped!
Butanol?

I woulda never guessed. Cool stuff.....
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Default Re: Switching to acrylics - HEEEEELP!!!!

If anyone is interested---here's a great website I check out all the time. Superior tutorials on weathering.

Superior.

Sure, it's armor, but as we all know---these techniques apply to anything.

Here's one of my favorites:

http://scratchmod.com/Ko_ed__Jagdtiger.php

While you're there, check out the JSU-152 build...
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BTW----here's the forums this fella runs. I've linked directly to a thread where one of their more "creative" modelers did an F-16....

in Natural Metal!

http://modelerssocialclub.proboards....lay&thread=458


The coolest fucking airplane build I've seen in a while.

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Those are definitely going bookmarked
Thanks for the links Neb!
I need all the tutorials I can get for weathering cuz I really suck at it !
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Butanol?

I woulda never guessed. Cool stuff.....
What do you use to clean your airbrush after spraying Tamiya? I've noticed that regular thinner doesn't clean like the X-20 thinner does....but I'd rather not spend that much on cleaning each time if I can help it.
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What do you use to clean your airbrush after spraying Tamiya? I've noticed that regular thinner doesn't clean like the X-20 thinner does....but I'd rather not spend that much on cleaning each time if I can help it.
I'll wipe out the cup with my index finger wrapped in paper towel, then fill up the cup about halfway with X20 and spray it through. Then----and here's the part nobody is gonna like---I do a quick tear-down and clean with q-tips dipped in X20.

It's a $250 airbrush---I treat it like one.....
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Those are definitely going bookmarked
Thanks for the links Neb!
I need all the tutorials I can get for weathering cuz I really suck at it !
You're welcome.

I'm getting better at weathering--- and a lot I've learned lately has come from those links. Very humbling......
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I'll wipe out the cup with my index finger wrapped in paper towel, then fill up the cup about halfway with X20 and spray it through. Then----and here's the part nobody is gonna like---I do a quick tear-down and clean with q-tips dipped in X20.

It's a $250 airbrush---I treat it like one.....
Well poo....normally I clean the cup out, shoot some thinner through it and then pull the nose crown off and make sure the needle front is clean. I'd hate to have to pull the Iwata apart each time as it can be a PITA to get the trigger back in correctly.
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